When did the glam stop?

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Started 3 years ago by Lorri
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Lorri
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I grew up in the 80's and was and still am an avid fan of glam/metal/hard rock. The harder and louder the better!
Anyhow, I have been trying to put a finger on this for a long time now. I can remember distinctly how 1990 seemed to be the turning point of music and when the whole grunge crap started. Does anyone else remember when and how it changed? It seems like almost overnight the music went from Ratt, Whitesnake, Motley to Pearl Jam and Nirvana. Just wondering what yall think.....
Keep it rockin'
Lorri

Posted 3 years ago #
MickMars
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everyday is glam day =) its never gonna end for me

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Posted 3 years ago #
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"everyday is glam day =) its never gonna end for me"
- MickMars
Very well put MickMars,I feel the same way!!!

Lovin' Keri Kelli

Posted 3 years ago #
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Hey, if a bunch of people decided to cut their hair and stop glamming it up for a new stupid fad, that's fine with me, they were never really into the scene in the first place if they can't stick by it when every new thing comes around. I love glam and I'm representing it even if nobody around me is. That's just rock n roll. It sucks that a bunch of personality lacking losers criticize us for actually having a style, but defending that style is half the point of having one in the first place.

So, like MickMars said, every day is still glam day if you're a true fan.

Posted 3 years ago #
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Well, when the hair era ended was pretty obvious.
But trad glam died about '77, was revived in the early 90s, and has been living precariously ever since.

Posted 3 years ago #
JustLee
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Smells Like Teen Spirit by Nirvana took a bite out of glam in 1991.

Posted 3 years ago #
Dynamo
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Glam stopped about 75, but then made a bit of a comeback in the early 80's. It was never ever as big again as in the early 70's though.

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Posted 3 years ago #
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Gunge did not kill Glam. Truth is Glam had already peaked in the mainstream US markets, and as a musical sub-culture was on it's way out. Gunge just happened to be the next thing for a new generation of kids to get into.
Crue had their first realease in 1981 so over 10 years isn't bad going for any scene.

Posted 3 years ago #
Lorri
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Poor choice of words on my part as far as my "when did the glam stop" post. I will always be glam as that is who I am and I don't follow the mainstream trends.
Glad to see that yall feel the same.

Posted 3 years ago #
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what i am dissapointed at is bands like "poison" or motley Crue dont wear go into concerts in glam uniforms...

i know it seems like we are never coming back. i know it feels like we r never coming back. you tryed ur best and you knew it wouldnt last. they were the words they wrote on her casket!

Posted 3 years ago #
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I think glam never stopped, it just became less obvious. Most people follow the misconception that grunge killed it, but that claim is ridiculous. Malfunkshun, the band that started grunge, were themselves a glam band. Mother Love Bone and Alice in Chains were both glam as well, and Cobain's favorite album was Raw Power. After grunge there were many Britpop bands that had strong glam elements, including Suede, Placebo and Spacehog. When Britpop ended the glam revival started, and today we have bands like We Are the Fury and Patrick Wolf.
Also, there was no real break between 70's and 80's glam, in that virtually the entire punk, post-punk, new wave, new romantic and goth movements were at least influenced, if not inspired, by glam rock.

Posted 3 years ago #
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I think Glam started to fall when Metallica and other Speed Metal bands at that time (mid to late 80's)started to get this movement of hating the whole 80's Glam thing (Big Hair, guys looking like girls, etc...) when imaging changed to the whole tore jeans, messed up hair kinda thing...opposite of glam. The when Metallicas' black album went big and Nirvanas' album went big it pretty much put a nail in the coffin for Glam. Not saying Glam is dead by all means, but, just that it took it out of the mainstream.

Posted 3 years ago #
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Glam n' sleazey rock n' roll never died in the 90'z,it just went underground and wasn't covered in the press some of the biggest bandz of today came out then such as Backyard Babies,Hardcore Superstar,Buckcherry,The 69 Eyes,Nashville Pussy & Supersuckers then you had the now legendary underground bandz such as Queeny Blast Pop,Glamour Punks,Heart Throb Mob & Alleycat Scratch. It was all a case of not accepting defeat and discovering what was out there at the time.

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Posted 3 years ago #
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Well, if you don't know where to find it, it's as good as dead to you... Even so, the glam revival didn't seem to start until the turn of the decade, did it? (I've had to go through this twice, the first time as a progressive rock fan, and I'll tell ya, in the '80s there was practically no way you could find out about new prog-rock, even if it was out there--unless it was English neo-prog, which is kinda lame. Or at least I thought there wasn't; I mean, if it wasn't in Factsheet Five, it just didn't exist, did it??)

The hate for glam that thrash inspired was always there--it just didn't have a vessel through which it could be articulated to the public. For all that, it's pretty obvious to me that Metallica is one of the most image-conscious bands ever.

As for the old glamsters, I guess they just got tired of it or just figured they were too old. I've seen a shot of somebody from the '80s still glamming it up at a recent gig (maybe on Metal Sludge?) and he just looked TERRIBLE. Doing glam long-term (i.e., more than ten years) is something that demands a major investment in one's own health and beauty, which kinda goes against the "good time" message, when you think about it. I'm still doing it, but I stay out of the sun, I keep my face relaxed, I think young, and I'm REALLY, REALLY LUCKY. (I could still stand to lose 20 pounds, though.)

"Lives devoted to Beauty seldom end well." --Sir Kenneth Clark

Posted 3 years ago #
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"everyday is glam day =) its never gonna end for me"
- MickMars

Not only that but these true rock bands are putting out albums and people need to support!! Last Year we had Scorpions and Sebastian Bach and this year we have Whitesnake who release today (YAY!), Def Leppard who release April 29th (#1 best band ever!), Dokken who release in May, and then later in the early summer, Motley Crue and then later on Aerosmith and many others!!! This year RULES!!!!

Posted 3 years ago #
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Saints of the Underground also releases today. Jani Lane (Warrant), Keri Kelli (Alice Cooper), Bobby Blotzer (Ratt), and Robbie Crane (Ratt). I can understand loosing some of the glam look with time. Bret Michaels was really hot BIT Day, but now he just goes over the top with the eyeliner. You still have to look young enough to pull it off. I worked in radio and those days. Billboard decided 3 weeks ahead of time what was going to be popular and mainstream. Glam never died, it took a siesta. Billboard plays to the market with the money. That market changed. These new kids were into other things and their parents had enough money to support it. Meanwhile, a good chunk of the glamsters out there were just getting started. We didn't necessarily have the money to spend on what the advertisers for radio stations were selling. It is all a matter of capitalism.it is coming back now because if you will notice, at least in the US there seems to be a station in every market that plays this music. We are now the 30 - 40 something crowd that the advertisers look to. We are also encouraging our children to love this music. As far as the "look" goes, at least one recently reunited band has said that they want to get back to the "uniforms" and the choreography.

"Do ya want me to be sleazy, Do ya want me to be eazy? Oh Baby, my heart goes boom!"

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Posted 3 years ago #
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i agree with justlee 1oopercent on this one....nirvana/kurt cobain.....as well as pearl jamand other grunge bands reallychanged the face of music around big time...it was mostly do nirvana and kurt cobains obscure song righting style and ,pardon me for saying this while i am aq huge glam fan and i always will be telli die....kurt cobain has been my hero sense i was a young lad....but i never forget classic glam gods like ratt,white snake, motley crue, scorpions,etc....thats my view on things

" into the flood again same old trip it was back then "

Posted 3 years ago #
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My view is that Glam didn't stop, it just evolved into other forms rather than remaining trapped in a retro cabaret thing.
Most of the early Punks were big on Bowie, the Dolls, Alice, etc...the Sex Pistols even got their name from Love Gun by KISS.
And when the Punks got bored with JUST doing stripped down stuff with minimal theatrics, they tapped back into Glam, and came up with Goth on one hand, and the New Romantic and Synthpop stuff on the other.
As for 80s Glam metal, a lot of those bands(or at least the ones that followed the Ratt/Crue/etc wave) seemed to follow the commercial trends of the moment.
I have no conclusive proof, but I think that's sorta where Candlebox came from. The first time I saw them, nobody knew who they were and they had to pay money just to get on the bill.
The only people into them was a group of 7-10 Hair Metal looking girls banging their heads and screaming for them. Members of the other bands were mocking them on the sideline.

Posted 3 years ago #
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"Hey, if a bunch of people decided to cut their hair and stop glamming it up for a new stupid fad, that's fine with me, they were never really into the scene in the first place if they can't stick by it when every new thing comes around. I love glam and I'm representing it even if nobody around me is. That's just rock n roll. It sucks that a bunch of personality lacking losers criticize us for actually having a style, but defending that style is half the point of having one in the first place.
So, like MickMars said, every day is still glam day if you're a true fan."
- GlamJam89

i have to agree here, if you cant stick with it, you were just a poser

~glam baby bear

Posted 3 years ago #
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I agree with Nirvana "Smells Like Teen Spirit", somebody should have given him a shot gun earlier and you forgot Courtney. You could have at least done that.

Posted 3 years ago #
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glam will never stop. NEVER!!!!!! MWHAHAHAHA

Posted 3 years ago #
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Most people would say "Smells Like Teen Spirit" by Nirvana. I say it never died it was always there just not in the mainstream. Look now with the emergence of Motley Crue, metal is on the rise again.

Posted 3 years ago #
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Good music never dies, it lives forever as evidenced by all the people of good taste on this forum. Someone had a good quote about Rock music I forget who it was it went "Rock never dies, it passes out." I'd say the same thing for glam, that grunge crap could only last for so long. Moping and crying were co opted by the emos where grunge lives now. People get sick of being depressed and just want to rock, not knocking songs about having a hard time, I like those songs but when it is constant it is a downer and not appealing. Variety in music is what I like.

Posted 3 years ago #